In this episode of the Impostor Syndrome Files, we talk about relationship building. While relationship-building tends to happen more naturally than we think, many of us hesitate to reach out and build connection with others due to self-doubt and other fears. My guest this week, Ingrid Goldbloom Bloch, excels at relationship building. Here she shares insights and practical tips to help us feel more comfortable building relationships.
About My Guest
Ingrid Goldbloom Bloch is a sought-after career development leader, trainer and speaker with 20+ years of experience working at the intersection of design thinking, cognitive psychology, career counseling, and coaching. Through her business, Mosaic Careers, Ingrid has helped over 5,000 people transform their careers and expand their businesses. Her sweet spot is helping people see patterns and possibilities where they hadn’t before, leading to career and business transformation.
Ingrid works with a globally diverse population of clients across a wide range of backgrounds and sectors. When working with individuals she helps them identify and secure meaningful work, manage difficult work situations and create career growth opportunities within or outside of an organization. When working with organizations, she helps leaders engage, inspire and retain their workforce.
Ingrid is not a typical career counselor, trainer and coach. In addition to her business training, she is an internationally recognized artist with a specialty for giving new life to recycled/upcycled/everyday items. Her ability to transform objects into something entirely new, is the same process she uses coaching clients on creative ways to reimagine their careers and businesses.
Ingrid holds a Master’s degree in counseling psychology from Lesley University and a dual, bachelor of science degree in communication arts and psychology from the University of Wisconsin-Madison. She received advanced graduate training in career development from the John F. Kennedy School and is trained in structural consulting from Robert Fritz, Inc. She is also MBTI certified and Master Certified in TypeCoach.
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Kim Meninger
Welcome, Ingrid, it is so wonderful to talk to you. Again, I've been looking forward to our conversation for a long time. And I would love to start by inviting you to introduce yourself.
Ingrid Goldbloom Bloch
Hi, thank you so much for having me on your show, Kim. And as you mentioned, we've been talking about this for a long time. So I am the Director of Career Development and engagement at a 300-person, public accounting and consulting firm. I also am the owner of Mosaic Careers, which helps people basically feel better about their careers, whether it's managing a toxic boss toxic work situation, managing some sort of transition within work, or in unexpected layoff or into some other position, helping people who know what they want to do get to that next level, more quickly and efficiently finding those jobs marketing themselves. And my sweet spot is helping people who have no idea what to do next, manage the stories, they tell themselves, I'm too old to make a career change the markets too tough, I should have started this a long time ago, I need to go back to school, really identify what it is that they're meant to do help them align their passions with the industry and help them land those jobs.
Kim Meninger
And that's such a really well-timed role to play because we are in this moment, I think, certainly the pandemic brought a lot of this to the surface. We've all heard about the great resignation, and the great reshuffle or whatever you want to call it. People are making all kinds of different decisions about their careers right now. And I think there's been no better time to really stop and evaluate. Am I doing what I want to be doing? Does this feel right to me? And so I just think it's really great to have people out there that can be guides through this process, because to your point, all that negative chatter, it's easy to, to assume it's fact until you actually start talking through it with somebody and you realize like, actually, there are more possibilities here than I thought there were.
Ingrid Goldbloom Bloch
Yeah, and I'm going to add that there's this time, right, there's, there's times in our lives, junctures where these questions come up. So sometimes it's something like COVID, where we were all put into a new work situation and having to reevaluate. Sometimes it's an unexpected layoff, or a family, something personal that happens in your family that throws you off your linear plan. Sometimes it's turning a certain age, I thought I'd be here by now. And sometimes you're happily going along. And suddenly, there's a new manager, new leadership, and all the hard work you've done, is seen through new eyes and not appreciated the same way. And you're suddenly find yourself in a toxic work environment. So sometimes it's money-related. There's all these junctures that will happen. And if they haven't happened, yet they will, where people stop and pause to say, Am I really where I need to be where I want to be? And that's when why I was so excited to be on your show, Kim, is where that chatter starts. And there's so much chatter that needs in this that stops us from really living our full potential.
Kim Meninger
Absolutely. And one thing I want to take a moment to talk about as something that you came and talked to my Thursday now leading humans group, you talked about the portfolio career, which I think is a really interesting concept in this day and age, I think many of us think in either or terms like either do this, or I'm gonna stay where I am. It doesn't we don't necessarily see the opportunity to do multiple things at once. Obviously, you're an example of that. You mentioned working for one organization having your own business too. Can you say a little bit more about the concept of a portfolio career?
Ingrid Goldbloom Bloch
Sure. So we diversify our money. If we have money. Sometimes there's times where we have more than others. But it's a concept that you don't keep all your money in just one location. You might have some bonds, you might have some stocks for long-term planning, you might have your check, checking account, whatever is happening in your life, you want to spread out the risk. And part of having a portfolio career from a one thought is that you're spreading out the risk in the sense that you have multiple income streams. Some are very low-income streams, but it's something maybe that you really enjoy, or you're building up a skill set. But what it does is it expands your network. So for example, you might be a professor or a teacher. And on the side, people are always asking you to proofread their kids essays, and you just do it out of generosity. Well, you could start monetizing that and then suddenly you have a portfolio career you are a full-time teacher with and getting paid to do editing or maybe some college counseling on the side, you might really enjoy being outdoors. And I know I actually know a VP career development person who loves cleaning houses, and she cleans two houses. So talk about the thoughts that go on in your head, right, you shouldn't be cleaning houses, if you have a master's degree. She loves it, because there's a beginning a middle and an end, and she actually sees the fruits of her labor. So back to the portfolio career, it's really a way to build skills in a variety of areas. Expand your network into more than just one place. So you can start building the portfolio career by volunteering. Let's say you're a finance person, but really wanted to be an event planner, you don't know where to get started. Maybe you volunteer for a nonprofit, and you volunteer to be on the events committee. So you start building those skills, meeting people planning events. And somebody one day says, Hey, can you help me plan my kids, Bar Mitzvah, or wedding, and suddenly you have that little income stream. So in my long-winded way, a portfolio career is a collection of income-producing, or skill-producing activities, that together make up your career. And really, the premise is, you are your own business, you are the CEO of your own life. And you are leasing out your skills, maybe full time, to an organization to these other things, but it's a really an identity shift to so you're not hanging up your identity just in one area. I have podcast, webinars on building a portfolio career. So if any of the listeners are interested in this concept, I'd be happy to send you some pre-recorded videos that I've done, or additional information on to go deep because I could spend an hour and a half on this.
Kim Meninger
No, that's perfect. Yeah, yeah. Put those in the show notes for anybody who wants to go deeper. I think that's great. So angered. You and I met because we were connected through mutual contact. And I want to shift gears now and talk about relationship building, because that is in my mind your superpower, right? So you and I met we had this conversation, and then you have just been this amazing source of new connections for me and opportunities. And we you know, we've been talking about diversifying each other's networks. And so this is something that I don't want to put words in your mouth, but think comes more naturally to you than it might come to other people. Can you talk a little bit about your experience with relationship building? How will you see it and we'll just kind of talk a little bit more about how others can learn from you.
Ingrid Goldbloom Bloch
I can and here's a perfect segue into appearances. And how you see somebody right you see me as the relationship-building expert, where it comes naturally. And what's really going on in my head, which is the chatter? So I'm gonna give your listeners a look inside my head, which is when I met you, Kim, and I was odd, right? Here's this person that has built out a huge network. And she has her Thursday group and she has a podcast, and I really wanted to talk to you. And the thought in my head was, why would she talk to me, she's to fill in whatever blank you want. I have them all accomplished. She's, she's going to be, has too many demands on our time. I don't really have anything to talk to her about. All I knew is I thought you were cool. And I wanted to talk to you. So part of this is that I'm constantly, constantly battling the stories in my head, which are, oh, don't do this, or you'll be too this, whatever it is being too much not being enough. That even though I'm a career professional, I've been at this over 20 years. I also have my Master's in Counseling Psychology. I've done my own therapy. It still happens. I'm a woman in society battling this. So step one, yes, I'm an extrovert. Yes, that appearances are it comes easily to me. It doesn't always when it does come easy. And it doesn't matter if it's an extrovert or an introvert is when I meet somebody that I connect with. And I then forced myself a little bit to then say, Wow, I really like this person. I'm going to take it to the next level and I think 90% of people maybe 95% People have the, that was a fun conversation, I really liked that person. And then the chatter starts and they never go to that next level. So I think my superpower is a is really, I fight my chatter to take things to the next level. So I told you earlier, when we're getting ready for this conversation, if I could get paid to network and help people build relationships all day long, that's what I would do. So I think that people think about networking and relationship building as their worst-case scenario, right? Going into a professional association meeting by yourself with all these strangers. And I think that's the worst way to network. Instead, whenever you're in a group situation, I seek out that one person, I might not even seek them out, I might just be listening, and I hear them. And I think that is somebody I want to get to know better than I raise home. And then in the comfort of my own home, I'll reach out through LinkedIn or email to say, I heard you speaking on the panel, or I met you briefly at fill-in-the-blank. And I was wondering if you'd be open to a follow-up conversation. One of the things I'm finding, especially now that everything's gone online, is doing the exact same thing, if you're in a webinar where they do breakout rooms, reach out afterwards to somebody that was in your breakout room. So I've done that to where I didn't even speak to the person. But I said, I happen to be in a breakout room with you, I really found what you talked about interesting. And I was wondering if you'd be open to having a follow-up conversation, the worst they could do is not respond or say I'm too busy, you don't, you're no worse off. So my advice for introverts or extroverts is, if you want to build a network, you start by developing a relationship with just one person. And that one person is somebody you already are interested in. And then you go deep with that person and through natural conversation will come the give and take of what can I do next? Or how can I help you? And so I think no matter what, if it's an it could be somebody at work that you in a different department that you're interested in, maybe you want to move over to the marketing department who is in the marketing department that you might have passed in the lunchroom or seen, seen at a company outing, you could reach out and just say I know we've never had the opportunity to have a proper conversation. Any chance you'd be up for a virtual coffee, I'd really like to hear more about what you do and get to know you better. So you can network internally, you can think about somebody that you haven't been back in touch with in your network from years back and say, wow, it's been I can't believe it's been five years, I love to do a catch-up. Or it could be something like us, Kim, where we were introduced, I can't remember how we initially were introduced. But being willing to do that follow-up one on one. So it's not about schmoozing. It's really about personal outreach, I think the other piece is not just sending these blanket, I'd like to connect with you on LinkedIn. But you're building a relationship from the moment you reach out to somebody on LinkedIn and say, I'd like to connect with you. So why do you want to connect with them? How do you know them? What do you want to do with that connection? I also have a tips sheet that I actually just did for a talk that I'd be happy to share with anybody 10 tips for building your relationship capital. And I even ghostwrite some of those emails or LinkedIn requests to help you get started. So there's information out there. It's that thought that you have to say I wonder where there's information or I wonder who I could connect with or I wonder how and changing your thought tapes. Were those negative tapes that you talk about Kim a lot, which is very easy to say, I can't I won't I shouldn't. Or I should add the stories be a good little girl stay in your lane, too. I wonder who I wonder how I wonder if which is really that design thinking framework.
Kim Meninger
So I love everything that you just said. And I want to go back a bit too when you talked about the, the messages that are going on in your head because that's really important. And I'm so glad you shared that so honestly with us because I think that sometimes we assume there are people who do this and people who don't. Right as opposed to the fact that there are intimidating moments for all of us no matter how comfortable or uncomfortable we are with the idea of building relationships with people. I consider myself an extrovert. I love to build relationships. But there are definitely times when it comes more naturally to me than others. And there's also anxiety because as humans, we are afraid of rejection, we do not ever want to be rejected. And we will go to great lengths to avoid that possibility. And so it's easier to just tell ourselves the story that, oh, that person's too busy. Or if you had, if you had followed through on your thinking that like, oh, what would she want to talk to me about? Right? We wouldn't be having this conversation right now wouldn't have developed that relationship that we have been developing. And so I think that just really recognizing where you may be prioritizing the need to protect yourself over the opportunity to connect more broadly with other people because to your point, the worst they can say, most people aren't going to respond and say, why the heck are you reaching out to me, right, that's so inappropriate, what they're gonna do is they're just not gonna respond at all. And there could be any number of reasons for why they didn't do that. And to your point, you're no worse off than you were. Before that.
Ingrid Goldbloom Bloch
I love what you said about prioritizing because at the end of the day, it's a choice. But it means that you have to stop and know when it's going on in your head. So right, there's that fight or flight response of protection. That's just so automatic. I also think there's the stories of how we've grown up that are so automatic, which is, don't be greedy. I'm thinking about I teach something on salary negotiations, right? And the stories of there's a plate of cookies, don't be greedy. Just take one. Better share. The stories of how will I be perceived. So there's the stories of also don't be a bother, right? So depending on how you grew up, you might have some childhood trauma of being told stories, right? That you're a bother, you're taking up too much space or stay in stay in your lane. And I've actually been told that through work-before-work situations before. So you get told to be smaller sometimes. And it really comes down to Okay, do I want to continue this narrative or up here it is, again, that's more or less what I do. It's not to I want to continue, it's like, Oh, Hello, there. Now I have a choice to make, I can decide to keep going, or I can choose something different. But every single time it's a choice, right? And with that choice, comes those feelings in your stomach or wherever they are. And that's why I try to practice some deep breathing throughout the day, especially during those anxiety-producing times because that can sort of rewire your nervous system so you're willing to take a risk.
Kim Meninger
Absolutely. And I love the way that you describe the outreach because I often think about when I'm talking with people during my presentations, or workshops, I'm often talking about the internal networking, but it applies across the board, this idea of connecting around three key things that have nothing to do with asking for anything, right? Number one is curiosity. You're interesting to me, you seem to have an interesting story. And I want to learn more. Number two is respect. I respect you, as a leader as a human right? Like, I want to learn from you, I see you as somebody who would be great if you don't have to use the word mentor. But right like, that's essentially what you're thinking of this person as number three is gratitude. I'm grateful that we that you support me and our work together with you. And I want to see how we can continue to collaborate, or I want to just express my thanks. And so those three things, it's really hard for the person on the other end of that, to say no to that. First of all, they're, they're gonna be thrilled. Who doesn't want to hear that? It's something that's so it's so I often joke about how as humans, we love talking about ourselves, right, some more than others. But you know, if you give people an opportunity to tell their story to somebody who actually cares like that makes them feel seen in a way that they're probably not feeling seen, even if they are senior-level leaders. Right. Now. When was the last time somebody actually asked you about your day and cared what the response was?
Ingrid Goldbloom Bloch
I love that. You're saying especially I have my own three too, but it's very similar. And the first one, of course, is curiosity, right, leading with curiosity. And I think no matter what level you're talking to, whether it's a senior leader, somebody that you've never met, one of the best questions you can say is, what do you wish you could do more of in your job? [Hmm] It allows the person to instantly connect with their happy place. They're gonna love that question. And then you hear it and you either might be able to help them. Or you could say, I'd love to hear more about, you know, what would you like to do more of? And I don't you either will have a solution or say, you know, I don't I wish I had a contact to help you with that. But I'm early in my career, but I'm going to remember this. And when I come across something that might help you do more of what you want to do, I'm going to send it your way. So you're already leading with generosity? And which I think you said is your third…
Kim Meninger
Yeah, gratitude. Yeah. I love that.
Ingrid Goldbloom Bloch
And I might, I was thinking about who I see more from a business perspective. Sales. So if you want to get business, but get business to me as also get a new job, get an internship, get a connection, get something from someone, people, from a sales perspective, buy from those they know, like and trust. And so I was really doing a deep dive into well, what makes you know, Hubble, they can't know you if you're sitting at home watching Netflix. So how do you make yourself more knowable to others. And sometimes that means just changing your Likes on social media to actual comments, so people can read what you're saying and get to know you. A best the best way is what we were talking about networking. Building those relationships, what makes you likeable? And one thing that makes you likable is spending more time talking about the other person than yourself. Right? So what, what, what do you like about your job? What do you wish you could do more of? If somebody could come in and wave their magic wand and take away the thing that keeps you up at night? What is it? Maybe I you know, what, what do you want off your plate? asking those kinds of questions, that show that you're being helpful, makes you likable. And I think trustworthy, and part of trustworthy is following through on your commitments. So I find oftentimes, people will start an outreach, and then they don't follow through, or somebody will give them information. And then some life happens. Maybe you get sick, maybe you have get overwhelmed at work, but then you don't follow up on your part of what you were going to do. And actually, can you and I were just talking about this, this morning, because I wasn't as timely as I. Normally I'm with something. And I had a personal thing that I needed to attend to. But I made a point to share with Kim, for the listeners that this is why I haven't been as responsive. It's out of character for me, because I really care about being trustworthy and building that. So there's so many different ways to build relationships, and no people are looking for that formula. But really, it's curiosity and being brave.
Kim Meninger
Yeah, you're absolutely right. And I think one of the, there's a couple of things that I want to talk about two that tend to be either, I don't know what you would call them barriers to what we're talking about. Number one goes back to the generosity piece that you were talking about because I think a lot of times we do, inflate someone else in our mind as unworthy. Like, we're not worthy of their time and attention. You don't have to offer in there. And on the one hand, it's I think it's a sign of good character to not want to just be entirely one-sided in a relationship. Look, we all know those people, we've gotten to networking events where you can tell they're all they care about is selling you something right, they don't. On the other hand, I think a lot of the people that I know, are so far in the opposite direction of feeling like I can't even take the first step until I identify something of value to offer to this person. But one of the things I think about is, if you haven't reached out to build the connection, how could you possibly know? What would be valuable to them? How could you possibly know what you could do to support them? Right? that would that would rely on you either having access to overhearing what they're talking about or guessing. And so one of the things I really liked about what you said is asking a question like What would you like to do more of, or even something as explicit as what can I do to help you so that other people can give you that information? And then you can decide what do I have available to me as a result of my network or my strengths, experiences that I can now provide to you, but if I never have that conversation, how am I supposed to know what support looks like to you?
Ingrid Goldbloom Bloch
Oh, you're so right. And also in those conversations, so many things come up because we think business right? We think, Oh, I have I'm not in this industry. So I can't do this or I'm too young or I can't do this. In my networking. I've ended up talking about kids. is talking about parenting, talking about lawn care, spouses, managing being two people working from home, talking about boss situations, reverse mentorship, wondering what's new and next and wanting to talk to a 22-year-old who knows more than I do about a lot of things. So I think by just having starting that genuine conversation, you get to know somebody better. And just saying, you know, I'd like to talk to you. In my case, it's usually it's business because of career development, but more about what your what you're doing or what you do, but on a personal note, like, what's going on? How are you? What did you celebrate Mother's Day? What's your family? So I know culturally, it depends. If you I'm speaking from a US-based orientation. So if you have listeners from other parts of the world, every piece of advice I give is very US-based culture. So sometimes, it might seem a little odd. But that genuine curiosity, like you said, who doesn't? Also who doesn't like feeling like an expert? [Exactly.] There's the other flip that I can't talk to them. They're an expert versus I'm giving this person an opportunity to be their expert self and feel really good doing it.
Kim Meninger
Exactly. Give them a chance to feel special. I think that is a gift in and of itself.
Ingrid Goldbloom Bloch
Sorry, I'm hijacking your [No, no, no] podcast. But since we're getting real, what made you be willing to talk to me when I reached out because I had this thought, right? If we're playing this out, that you're too accomplished your too established your too whatever to want to, or too busy, or I'm taking up too much space? And yet you did. And in the end, actually, I've been able to give a lot back to you that I never thought I could. But what made you take that initial meeting with me?
Kim Meninger
I think two things. I think number one is I'm a nosy person. So I love talking to people, I always want to talk to you. I'm very curious about other people. And you seemed like you were doing interesting things. And I was like, Ooh, this is somebody who seems interesting, I'm gonna, I'm gonna respond. And because a person that I trusted, connected at us, so I thought she must know something. If she was willing to say you two need to meet, then I was going to listen to her. So I think that's there's probably implications for that, too. When you think about building your network to, you know, sort of be the matchmaker. And in the case that you were you've played in, in my worlds, but also really ask for matchmaking help, too, if you're feeling like, you're not as comfortable reaching out directly to somebody.
Ingrid Goldbloom Bloch
Yeah. And that's my building relationship capital tips thing, I was just thinking about it, how do you build up these relationships, so over time, they can sustain you for 20 years? And you can reach out to somebody three years from now that you haven't even spoken to, and you'll have that positive relationship, and they'll want to help you. But like you're saying somebody that you both know, even if you're strangers, you kind of come in with that halo effect. [Exactly.] Endorsed, endorsed by the stamp of approval. Yeah, sorry.
Kim Meninger
Yeah. Well, in you, you sort of mentioned this to have the sustainability of a relationship because I think sometimes what happens is we muster up all this courage, we have that one conversation, we walk away, and we think, Well, I can't do that again. Because now I've gone to that, you know, can't go back to that, well, now they've taken time out of their calendar, I can't be greedy, like, say can’t take more than one cookie, I can't take more than one-time slot from them. But I think, you know, I'd love to hear your thoughts on this too, because you talked about not following through and how, how tied that is to the trustworthiness. I think that we many of us, don't do as much as we could to close the loop. So if, for example, you have made some really powerful introductions on my behalf, and if I didn't come back to you and say, Hey, thank you for that. Here's what happened. Yes, right. Like that's gonna leave you feeling like you're not getting the full information and also that maybe you're not fully as fully appreciated as you could be. Right. So. So I think when we think about how do we sustain the relationship over time, a perfect opportunity to do that is to keep going back to the person saying, Hey, I took your advice and I want to let you know what happened.
Ingrid Goldbloom Bloch
Absolutely. Absolutely. You know, and, and also, I have it on my tip sheet if you write to me, but it's what can you sometimes I sit down with And, and when I'm on my own, just kind of go through my contacts sheet, I'll look on LinkedIn. I know you showed me Kim different ways that you can download into an Excel and, and sort from LinkedIn that way. Or just thinking through, okay, who are these top people? And who am I? Who do I want to get back in connection with or talk to? And then I will go out and curate an article, or go find something that I can just send to them to say, came across this article on, you know, chat GPT and career development trends, thought of you because of XYZ. So I have this give-to-get model, which is what can you give to your network so that it takes planning, and it takes work. And I think that sometimes, especially in we're so busy, we're so used to this immediate gratification that really this relationship building is a long game, it takes time, takes effort, you got to follow up. My son just landed a nice PhD program. And I coached him I said, Okay, so you need to write in your LinkedIn, the announcement that you're doing it, think and tag the people that helped you get there. And suddenly he's inundated with 30 people responding, congratulations. And I said, here's the learning opportunity. You're not responding to them. And if you don't, suddenly all this goodwill that you've created, it's like, what they took time to respond, and you didn't think them you. So here's how you thank each and every one couldn't have done it without you. Thank you for your advice. So really, there's times where people think they're closing the loop, but they're not or they're falling off. So it does take time. And I think my best advice for anybody is listening because it can seem overwhelming, like, Oh, now I have to network and I have to follow up. It's just pick one thing that's the most comfortable for you of everything we're talking about and try something a little bit new. So rather than five things like what's one thing you could try? Yeah, yeah.
Kim Meninger
Yeah, I think that's a very good point. Because you can always add, if you try to do everything, you will feel overwhelmed. [And it can easily nothing.] Yeah, yeah, exactly. It feels like a second full-time job. And then we just freeze and we don't move forward. But if you pick one thing, and then it becomes part of your standard routine, then you can add something else later and keep expanding over time. And you've mentioned a couple of times, the tip sheet that you have, I want to let everybody listening know that if you reach out to Ingrid, she has generously offered to share that with you. So if you are interested, can reach out to her, her contact information will be in the show notes. Any final thoughts because I could talk to you about this all day. I know we could keep going on and on. There's so much here. But any final thoughts, anything we missed that you would want to share?
Ingrid Goldbloom Bloch
Anything we missed, I could write a marathon, I always go back to really paying attention to those thoughts in your head. And if let's say there's something you want to do, or somebody you want to reach out to, I go old school, pull out a pen and a piece of paper and just do a thought download it what are all just write every reason why you don't want to reach out or what's keeping you stuck. And then look at it and ask yourself, Is this really a fact? Or is it a thought of fact is something that's provable in a court of law doesn't have any emotion? Everybody would agree no matter what, if it's not a fact, it's a thought and thoughts can be changed. You can change them by starting that growth mindset. I wonder if I wonder how I wonder who type questions and that's a great way to get yourself unstuck. So sometimes, when you find yourself stuck, or even after listening to this, if you have your thoughts, there's too many things, then it's like I wonder if I just listen to the first 10 minutes and see if there's a tip.
Kim Meninger
Yeah, that's a great, I think that's a great practice. Just get it all out there, right? And then, because a lot of times we're just accepting at face value that our thoughts and fears are facts, and they're not. So Ingrid, where can people find you if they want to connect and learn more?
Ingrid Goldbloom Bloch
Well, thank you. So right now I've streamlined I'm on LinkedIn, and I'm using my LinkedIn as my website homepage. So please reach out. But if you do not customize your LinkedIn invitation, I won't know that you were one of the listeners. You might feel that you know me better because you've just listened for half an hour but I have no idea who you are. So please customize an invitation so I know who you are. You can also reach me Ingrid at Mosaic careers.com and that will go directly to I read every single one of those emails and I personally risk pond. And I think that that's the most streamlined way. And I think, mosaic careers because we are all like a mosaic many different pieces that can be put together in new ways to have new patterns and possibilities, and all of them are beautiful. So there's no one way to put your life together and your career together. And I will tell you, I've helped and coached and talk to people at all ages or stages of their career. There's a woman who was 89, saying, I want to figure out what to do next before my 90th birthday. So it is standard now to have multiple careers. And it's really challenging those stories. You're telling yourself that that is getting in the way and making you feel like you don't deserve or you can't, right, which is why I love talking to him all the time. Because our stories about our careers so parallel to us feeling like imposters into our own life. are imposters into other people's lives.
Kim Meninger
Yeah, thank you so much, Ingrid. I so appreciate this conversation. So grateful for our relationship and we will have all of your information in the show notes once again for anybody who's interested.
Ingrid Goldbloom Bloch
Thank you so much for having me. This was fun.